Tuesday, January 6, 2009

Ouch

Siighhhh, I took a bit of a hit so far today. My first 10 games I broke about even. I usually play my games in 5 game sets and decided to play a set of $230's(5 games). I ended up going 1-4(lost the first 4, salvaged the 5th one) I ran like fucking shit, but on top of that I played like trash also. I mean, I guess it's not even that bad I'm just down like $650 so far on the day, not a catastrophe or anything, but there have been a few days this month where I broke even or made just a couple hundred dollars when they could have easily been +$1,000 days if it weren't for shit shit shit luck, so I'm pretty sure that just added to the frustration.

Anyways 1st game i'm playing someone I've played them several times before, they are pretty bad, and pretty aggro but can lay mediocre hands down. They raise their button about 2/3 of the time. Here's the shitty played hand that ended up crippling me:

PokerStars Game #23623902199: Tournament #132097836, $220+$10 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2009/01/06 5:39:34 ET
Table '132097836 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: villain (1800 in chips)
Seat 2: bartchalker (1200 in chips)
villain: posts small blind 10
bartchalker: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bartchalker [Jh Qd]
villain: raises 40 to 60
bartchalker: raises 120 to 180
villain: calls 120
*** FLOP *** [Ac 9h Jd]
bartchalker: checks
villain: checks
*** TURN *** [Ac 9h Jd] [2c]
bartchalker: checks
villain: bets 200
bartchalker: calls 200
*** RIVER *** [Ac 9h Jd 2c] [8c]
bartchalker: checks
villain: bets 500
bartchalker: calls 500
*** SHOW DOWN ***
villain: shows [Ts Ad] (a pair of Aces)
bartchalker: mucks hand
villain collected 1760 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1760 Rake 0
Board [Ac 9h Jd 2c 8c]
Seat 1: villain (button) (small blind) showed [Ts Ad] and won (1760) with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: bartchalker (big blind) mucked [Jh Qd]

I actually don't mind my preflop 3bet or how passively I played it the whole way. I hate my river call because I had notes saying they don't bet the river unless they have it. They are a bad player, they don't switch up their game, they obv have me beat, but i donate 500 anyways. So bad, so so bad. Why did I call, I have no idea I must have been on tilt because I had all the info I needed to lay this down to the 500 river bet. Puke.

2nd game a player sits with me who usually plays a bit higher and they are playing super super aggressive and I'm thinking tilting. Their recent results before this game had been poor. Here's the bad hand.


PokerStars Game #23624084419: Tournament #132099155, $220+$10 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2009/01/06 5:54:46 ET
Table '132099155 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: bartchalker (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: villain (1500 in chips)
bartchalker: posts small blind 10
villain: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bartchalker [As 9c]
bartchalker: calls 10
villain: raises 60 to 80
bartchalker: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [8c 9d 8d]
villain: bets 100
bartchalker: raises 200 to 300
villain: calls 200
*** TURN *** [8c 9d 8d] [7d]
villain: checks
bartchalker: checks
*** RIVER *** [8c 9d 8d 7d] [3c]
villain: bets 1120 and is all-in
bartchalker: calls 1120 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
villain: shows [5h 6c] (a straight, Five to Nine)
bartchalker: shows [As 9c] (two pair, Nines and Eights)
villain collected 3000 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3000 Rake 0
Board [8c 9d 8d 7d 3c]
Seat 1: bartchalker (button) (small blind) showed [As 9c] and lost with two pair, Nines and Eights
Seat 2: villain (big blind) showed [5h 6c] and won (3000) with a straight, Five to Nine

I probably should have raised myself with this pre, villain was raising like 80% of hands that I limped, I like to switch my play up so I decided to play this hand in position to his predictable raise. I don't know, I hated the turn so checked behind then he overbet shoves river. He did a great job of using his reckless image to his advantage and getting max value. I was almost positive he would have 3bet all in on flop with a flush draw or 10 J with how aggro he was being. I couldn't beat much though unless he was going wild with two overs. I think I should have folded this river, but he was acting pretty nuts. When I look at it, even if villain stacks me every single time he hits that gutshot he's losing chips long term on that 200 chip call. In the end all my fault, horribly played I'm a donkey.

Same oppenent next game:


PokerStars Game #23624129741: Tournament #132100286, $220+$10 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2009/01/06 5:58:32 ET
Table '132100286 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: bartchalker (2130 in chips)
Seat 2: villain (870 in chips)
bartchalker: posts small blind 10
villain: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bartchalker [Jc Ac]
bartchalker: calls 10
villain: raises 60 to 80
bartchalker: raises 660 to 740
villain: raises 130 to 870 and is all-in
bartchalker: calls 130
*** FLOP *** [8d Td 9d]
*** TURN *** [8d Td 9d] [9s]
*** RIVER *** [8d Td 9d 9s] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
villain: shows [Tc Kc] (two pair, Tens and Nines)
bartchalker: shows [Jc Ac] (two pair, Nines and Eights)
villain collected 1740 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1740 Rake 0
Board [8d Td 9d 9s 8h]
Seat 1: bartchalker (button) (small blind) showed [Jc Ac] and lost with two pair, Nines and Eights
Seat 2: villain (big blind) showed [Tc Kc] and won (1740) with two pair, Tens and Nines

Thought I had him this game. This kinda pissed me off. He finishes me off in this next hand which was about 10 hands after the one above:


PokerStars Game #23624162987: Tournament #132100286, $220+$10 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2009/01/06 6:01:14 ET
Table '132100286 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: bartchalker (1310 in chips)
Seat 2: villain (1690 in chips)
bartchalker: posts small blind 10
villain: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bartchalker [3d 3s]
bartchalker: calls 10
villain: raises 60 to 80
bartchalker: raises 1230 to 1310 and is all-in
villain: calls 1230
*** FLOP *** [Qc 7c 2d]
*** TURN *** [Qc 7c 2d] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [Qc 7c 2d Ts] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
villain: shows [9h 9s] (a pair of Nines)
bartchalker: shows [3d 3s] (a pair of Threes)
villain collected 2620 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2620 Rake 0
Board [Qc 7c 2d Ts 4d]
Seat 1: bartchalker (button) (small blind) showed [3d 3s] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 2: villain (big blind) showed [9h 9s] and won (2620) with a pair of Nines

This hand may look like a donk overshove but I don't mind it. This match villain had basically raised to 80 EVERY time I limped in so he's folding the vast majority of the time, and when he doesn't I'm flipping or have slight edge most of the time. But obv he has 99. Another donation from bartchalker.

4th game this hand gets me:


PokerStars Game #23624276354: Tournament #132100407, $220+$10 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level II (15/30) - 2009/01/06 6:10:30 ET
Table '132100407 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: bartchalker (1450 in chips)
Seat 2: villain (1550 in chips)
bartchalker: posts small blind 15
villain: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bartchalker [7c Ah]
bartchalker: raises 60 to 90
villain: raises 150 to 240
bartchalker: calls 150
*** FLOP *** [4s Ac Ts]
villain: checks
bartchalker: bets 240
villain: raises 1070 to 1310 and is all-in
bartchalker: calls 970 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (100) returned to villain
*** TURN *** [4s Ac Ts] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [4s Ac Ts 3c] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
villain: shows [Ad Kd] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
bartchalker: shows [7c Ah] (two pair, Aces and Tens - lower kicker)
villain collected 2900 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2900 Rake 0
Board [4s Ac Ts 3c Tc]
Seat 1: bartchalker (button) (small blind) showed [7c Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Tens
Seat 2: villain (big blind) showed [Ad Kd] and won (2900) with two pair, Aces and Tens

Villain had not been 3 betting alot so this hand should have been folded preflop with a loss of just 90 chips. It seems when you're on a bad run those kind of flops hit too. :( so sucky, once again kinda unlucy, but probably played badly.

I managed to salvage the 5th game which was nice. I've been playing so good the last month or so I don't know what happened in these games. Yes I got a bit unlucky in some spots, but I didn't have to lose as many chips as I did. Donk donk donk donk donk.

Earlier on in the day I had A7 on a A77 flop and lost to AQ when turn came A river Q. Then very next game on first hand I have 47 hit a 77A flop against AA. I've taken my fair share of bad beats/coolers the last couple days which sucks. Time to turn it around!

Despite the bad results in the $230 games posted above I am getting more and more comfortable/confident in playing that game. I'll probably be playing more the 20% of my games at that level now.

I'm still up about $750 this month so it's not that bad, I'll get it rolling again. I've got nothing else I can think to type. See ya.

Oh yes please anybody reading this berate me. I'm a donkey I deserve, please leave me a flame comment don't hold back.

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

actually, it takes a lot of courage to write that stuff. Good for you.

endgamep said...

Interesting hands, seems like your B-game has a lot of common with mine. The 33 hand was fine but i agree that the rest of the hands was terrible.

I would like to give some ideas about semi-tilting and how to deal with a fishy or average skilled loose-aggressive player.

When we are semi-tiling we tend to get more involed in big pots with marginal hands too early in the game. We tend to limp-call more, re-raise more OOP, shove marginal hands like AJ-AQ or 22-99 pre flop and marginal hands/draws on flop at 10/20. Then the whole thing becomes more like a lottery than a skill game.

"When we are playing our B-game we tend to shove when we should just call, and call when we should fold"

When I play my A-game I'm folding more often marginal hands and keeping better pot controll at the lower blinds.

I understand that against some players it's not possible to controll the pot because they bet almost every hand and c-bets all the way to the river almost every time. Then I think its ok to just make a call down with a marginal hand like second pair or something. But i think its suboptimal to be 3-betting pre OOP with anything weaker than a solid pocket against players like this at early blinds. In fact I dont even like to 3-bet AK or AQ vs aggressive players at 10/20 and 15/30, because I believe I'll win more games against those guys in the long run if I manage to keep the pot small until I have made my hand at the lower blinds. In fact I think its better to just shove AK or AQ at 10/20 than to 3-bet with it against loose aggressive players, because AK and AQ is indeed a made hand preflop but typically not after the flop.

My A-game is pretty tight and it sucks when I sometimes get runed over by maniacs when I never catch a single hand. But most of the times I'll catch the few hands I need to win.

Well, this comment ran about out of context, but hey, its just some general ideas.

bartchalker said...

Yeah, the worst part about some of those hands was that when I call at the end I call like .5 seconds after the bets is made. Total snap call, if I had just thought the hand through for a fews secs I might come to my senses and make the fold.
Sometimes when I tilt it's not the hands I'm 3 betting, I just do it against players I shouldn't, players who can't fold anything and call down super light.

You're points are very true. Thanks for your input.